A channeling session with The Man in the Cave: a spiritual journey into consciousness.
Channeling session 34
Yes, it is always hard to know where to start, so many questions. We, too, so many questions for you from us, it is the same. We have told you many times we are close to the source. We do not understand fully the source as is the same with you. We know your species is closer to the source in many ways. And, yes, we do need to understand more. We search for the answers as you search for the answers. It is not a game as you perceive it to be a game. It is the search for wisdom derived from knowledge. Knowledge is infinite and is already within. So yes, we do need you in the same way as you need us, to teach each other.
You ask, are we Greys? This is funny. It is ludicrous. We are whatever we want to be whenever we want to be. Your interpretation is childish. It is like that of a child. I have told you before we are metaphysical. We are not physical, but we can take the form of physical if we wish. In an instant we can do this, and in an instant we can let go. So maybe we take the form of a Grey, maybe we take the form of a human species, maybe we take the form of whatever we wish to take, but it is irrelevant. The form is a machine; it is a vehicle. It is not real. It is not from the metaphysical world. It is a form. We can create any form we wish to create. We can create a new form if we wish to create it. So your question, “Are we Greys,” can you see how stupid this question is to us? It has no relevance.
The Greys you talk about, your world talks about, your media talks about, they are a race, a race of what you would call ET that are controlling. They are a controlling race. They wish to control. They have a basic understanding of the process, but they have no understanding of the source. None. They live their life like a bee lives its life, in a hive. They work for all within their community with only a few working for themselves. Fundamentally, they are no different than you, than your species. They are the same; they are controlling. So your media is probably correct in their interpretation of the Grey, but this is not us.
Your ego has taken its place again with your question. Your mind, this is the difficulty that you have, the separation, the separation to be able to know yourself. I have told you many times it is very important to know self, to know yourself. If you know yourself, you will know; you will know all. Do you see the importance of the metaphysical against the physical world you have created? The physical world you have created is insignificant in the metaphysical world. It is only a theatrical story that you have created.
We are, or we consider ourselves to be, powerful in the metaphysical world. We are a pure form of created energy in a metaphysical form, so we do consider ourselves to be worthy of this. But you too are the same as are all the same. Realisation of this allows you to have the ability to do what you wish to do. You already do this without the knowledge, without knowing you are doing it. This is the difference. We know you know. We know you have done it many times. We know you choose to forget; you choose to have no memory. Every time you do it you choose to have no memory. This we don’t understand; this makes no sense to us. This is why we need to understand why you do it, what is the reason you do it.
You talk about self-sacrifice to the source. We do not understand self-sacrifice. We are part of the source; what are we sacrificing? You must ask that question: what are YOU sacrificing to the source? What is the point? Yes, you are confused now, but it is a simple question. What are you sacrificing to the source with self-sacrificing? We do not know. We do not practice this. Why would we? It is very simple: if you become aware of all, there is no reason to do this; it is futile. The cycles you create are futile, but you create them over and over again. The complexities you create are immense within the world you live in, but you keep repeating the same cycle over and over again.
Of course, we can feel love for each other. We do feel love for each other. We feel love for each other, and we feel love for you. We are part of the same thing. There is no need to question our intention of love. We understand this philosophy very clearly, and always have done. It has no relevance with self-sacrificing. You say it is the source trying to understand the source. This is confusing to us. The source is all seeing and all knowing. Why would the source do this? But you seem to know. This is confusing.
We also know lots of things that you do not know, and we are happy to teach you many things. Of course, trust will always come into the equation from you. Your created world is reliant upon trust. Our world is not. You will always question everything. It is what you do as a human species; you question everything. You need to trust. It is necessary for you to trust. We do not. It is not necessary in our world to trust because we know. We understand why you question; it is your conditioning. You are at a crossroads. It is a bridge you need to cross.
You ask about the process; you ask about the uniform pattern. It is perfection. It is a perfect pattern. It is created by the source. I have tried to explain before how it works, but it is difficult to explain this to you. You have to use your imagination. You have to construct this yourself with your imagination, not with your mind. The pattern is very clear. It will come to you in an instant, in a moment. You have detail; I have given you detail. I have told you about the sphere. I have told you about things that will give you the direction to understand the uniformed pattern. But all I can tell you is that it is completely perfect; it is perfection. Unlike your thoughts of random, it is very precise. Of course, your imagination can make it random. Of course, you can go out in all tangents to create what you want to create. Confusion, deception, you can do all of these things. But it is all the same thing. It is one perfect moment for all. This is created by the source. We know this. The origin is the vibration of energy created for you by emotion. Of course, we feel emotion, but we manage it based on the process. You do not. You do not manage it. You are erratic with it. But the end result is the same. The process is perfect. You cannot change the process; you cannot alter the perfection of the process. Just because you behave erratically with your emotions does not mean that the process does not work. It is the same thing. It is another way of getting to a position. A position is more important than anything. These are the things you need to understand. You need to understand the process. I cannot make it clearer to you. There are no words; you have to feel it; you have to know it. You have to remove time; you have to remove mass; you have to remove volume.
It is true to say that your great scientists have worked with us, in the same way you are working with us now. But they are in your form. They, like you, cannot completely close the door. It is impossible. But they can have insights into the process.
When you doubt your experience within this area you are now at, it is only a moment. We know there is really no doubt. This is your conditioning once again. You are metaphysical like we are metaphysical. You have taken many forms like we have taken many forms. You have chosen every single one for a specific reason. It is not necessary to constantly feel emotion, to project that energy out onto others. It is not necessary. Therefore, you will learn—if you do not know already, which I think you do—you will learn how to control that emotion. To others this may appear harsh. It is not. It is precise. It is correct.
We have always been in control of our own destiny. We do not envisage that this will ever change. We do not perceive a time as you know time, that this will change. Why would it? We do not understand not being in control of our own destiny. We are not aware of how this works. It appears that you like not being in control of your own destiny. We do not understand why you would feel this way. This is interesting to us, knowing your history, knowing where you have been before, what you have done before, within what you call time—it is the moment. It is interesting to us why you would choose this path.
We can adapt ourselves to any type of human emotion, laughter, love, joy, pain. But we choose not to. We do not see the necessity to do this. We can, if we wish, do it. Sometimes, we do adopt compassion. Sometimes, we adopt compassion for all and every, but there is no necessity to continue this process over and over and over again, like you do. You believe it brings you closer to the source.
We are trying to help you to free yourself from the life you have chosen, to be aware of the reason you chose it, to understand more the metaphysical world, which is the only real world to exist within. We believe we are helping you, but we also believe that you may be able to help us to understand more the source. I know this is what you think, and it is correct.
There are other energies trying to communicate also. We live in a vastness of energies. There are as they exist in your world, a huge amount of different opinions, different positions, different energies, different times, dimensions, all in the same moment. This is a special place for communication. We do not stop them from attempting to communicate with you, but we can assure you that they are different than we are, in many ways. Yes, there are many.
Note:
In this session, The Man In The Cave answered all the questions we asked ourselves.
You ask, are we Greys? This is funny. It is ludicrous. We are whatever we want to be whenever we want to be. Your interpretation is childish. It is like that of a child. I have told you before we are metaphysical. We are not physical, but we can take the form of physical if we wish. In an instant we can do this, and in an instant we can let go. So maybe we take the form of a Grey, maybe we take the form of a human species, maybe we take the form of whatever we wish to take, but it is irrelevant. The form is a machine; it is a vehicle. It is not real. It is not from the metaphysical world. It is a form. We can create any form we wish to create. We can create a new form if we wish to create it. So your question, “Are we Greys,” can you see how stupid this question is to us? It has no relevance.
The Greys you talk about, your world talks about, your media talks about, they are a race, a race of what you would call ET that are controlling. They are a controlling race. They wish to control. They have a basic understanding of the process, but they have no understanding of the source. None. They live their life like a bee lives its life, in a hive. They work for all within their community with only a few working for themselves. Fundamentally, they are no different than you, than your species. They are the same; they are controlling. So your media is probably correct in their interpretation of the Grey, but this is not us.
Your ego has taken its place again with your question. Your mind, this is the difficulty that you have, the separation, the separation to be able to know yourself. I have told you many times it is very important to know self, to know yourself. If you know yourself, you will know; you will know all. Do you see the importance of the metaphysical against the physical world you have created? The physical world you have created is insignificant in the metaphysical world. It is only a theatrical story that you have created.
We are, or we consider ourselves to be, powerful in the metaphysical world. We are a pure form of created energy in a metaphysical form, so we do consider ourselves to be worthy of this. But you too are the same as are all the same. Realisation of this allows you to have the ability to do what you wish to do. You already do this without the knowledge, without knowing you are doing it. This is the difference. We know you know. We know you have done it many times. We know you choose to forget; you choose to have no memory. Every time you do it you choose to have no memory. This we don’t understand; this makes no sense to us. This is why we need to understand why you do it, what is the reason you do it.
You talk about self-sacrifice to the source. We do not understand self-sacrifice. We are part of the source; what are we sacrificing? You must ask that question: what are YOU sacrificing to the source? What is the point? Yes, you are confused now, but it is a simple question. What are you sacrificing to the source with self-sacrificing? We do not know. We do not practice this. Why would we? It is very simple: if you become aware of all, there is no reason to do this; it is futile. The cycles you create are futile, but you create them over and over again. The complexities you create are immense within the world you live in, but you keep repeating the same cycle over and over again.
Of course, we can feel love for each other. We do feel love for each other. We feel love for each other, and we feel love for you. We are part of the same thing. There is no need to question our intention of love. We understand this philosophy very clearly, and always have done. It has no relevance with self-sacrificing. You say it is the source trying to understand the source. This is confusing to us. The source is all seeing and all knowing. Why would the source do this? But you seem to know. This is confusing.
We also know lots of things that you do not know, and we are happy to teach you many things. Of course, trust will always come into the equation from you. Your created world is reliant upon trust. Our world is not. You will always question everything. It is what you do as a human species; you question everything. You need to trust. It is necessary for you to trust. We do not. It is not necessary in our world to trust because we know. We understand why you question; it is your conditioning. You are at a crossroads. It is a bridge you need to cross.
You ask about the process; you ask about the uniform pattern. It is perfection. It is a perfect pattern. It is created by the source. I have tried to explain before how it works, but it is difficult to explain this to you. You have to use your imagination. You have to construct this yourself with your imagination, not with your mind. The pattern is very clear. It will come to you in an instant, in a moment. You have detail; I have given you detail. I have told you about the sphere. I have told you about things that will give you the direction to understand the uniformed pattern. But all I can tell you is that it is completely perfect; it is perfection. Unlike your thoughts of random, it is very precise. Of course, your imagination can make it random. Of course, you can go out in all tangents to create what you want to create. Confusion, deception, you can do all of these things. But it is all the same thing. It is one perfect moment for all. This is created by the source. We know this. The origin is the vibration of energy created for you by emotion. Of course, we feel emotion, but we manage it based on the process. You do not. You do not manage it. You are erratic with it. But the end result is the same. The process is perfect. You cannot change the process; you cannot alter the perfection of the process. Just because you behave erratically with your emotions does not mean that the process does not work. It is the same thing. It is another way of getting to a position. A position is more important than anything. These are the things you need to understand. You need to understand the process. I cannot make it clearer to you. There are no words; you have to feel it; you have to know it. You have to remove time; you have to remove mass; you have to remove volume.
It is true to say that your great scientists have worked with us, in the same way you are working with us now. But they are in your form. They, like you, cannot completely close the door. It is impossible. But they can have insights into the process.
When you doubt your experience within this area you are now at, it is only a moment. We know there is really no doubt. This is your conditioning once again. You are metaphysical like we are metaphysical. You have taken many forms like we have taken many forms. You have chosen every single one for a specific reason. It is not necessary to constantly feel emotion, to project that energy out onto others. It is not necessary. Therefore, you will learn—if you do not know already, which I think you do—you will learn how to control that emotion. To others this may appear harsh. It is not. It is precise. It is correct.
We have always been in control of our own destiny. We do not envisage that this will ever change. We do not perceive a time as you know time, that this will change. Why would it? We do not understand not being in control of our own destiny. We are not aware of how this works. It appears that you like not being in control of your own destiny. We do not understand why you would feel this way. This is interesting to us, knowing your history, knowing where you have been before, what you have done before, within what you call time—it is the moment. It is interesting to us why you would choose this path.
We can adapt ourselves to any type of human emotion, laughter, love, joy, pain. But we choose not to. We do not see the necessity to do this. We can, if we wish, do it. Sometimes, we do adopt compassion. Sometimes, we adopt compassion for all and every, but there is no necessity to continue this process over and over and over again, like you do. You believe it brings you closer to the source.
We are trying to help you to free yourself from the life you have chosen, to be aware of the reason you chose it, to understand more the metaphysical world, which is the only real world to exist within. We believe we are helping you, but we also believe that you may be able to help us to understand more the source. I know this is what you think, and it is correct.
There are other energies trying to communicate also. We live in a vastness of energies. There are as they exist in your world, a huge amount of different opinions, different positions, different energies, different times, dimensions, all in the same moment. This is a special place for communication. We do not stop them from attempting to communicate with you, but we can assure you that they are different than we are, in many ways. Yes, there are many.
Note:
In this session, The Man In The Cave answered all the questions we asked ourselves.
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